now, we had spent a lot of time and a lot of energy and everett making sure -- effort making sure that scott walker and ron johnson won that primary. but that was our decision. and i wouldn't have appreciated the national party coming in and telling the state of wisconsin, now, wait a minute, i don't know about scott walker, i think we're going to go with mark newman. well, that's ridiculous. and that's the point. it's not that we want to handcuff ourselves, it just isn't practical, and i don't think it's right. >> governors have gone on to become some of the most significant republican presidents in the last century, nixon, reagan, bush. is the party doing enough to support the rising star governors once they get past that state endorsement process? >> well, i mean, that's the plan for 2013 and 2014. um, i know that state parties sure do a lot of work and, obviously, the rga does. you know, we have a different party too. i mean, you know, i don't know, 15, 20 years ago maybe more there budget an nrcc, there wasn't 10, 20 different super pacs and 527s. we have a big group of organizati